Following my expose of their
pathetic organization, Anarchist Black Cock of Boston really got
steamed! Here are their angry retorts, and my rebuttal of them.
IMC Chicago
Re: ABCN Giving Terrorist Support in Boston!
by anonymous (No verified email address)
13 Dec 2005 this
article (if i can even call it that) is one big lie! not a single truth
or accurate statement about the individuals, organizations, or the
city's politics are true. This is total bullshit, and the author should
be ashamed of posting this crap. furthermore, Rosa Parks was not a
black nationalist....props to Boston for celabrating her amazing life.
Rebuttal:
Thanks, "anonymous." You have shown great bravery in anonymously
replying to my article. Too bad I copied real emails verbatim
from those douchebags. Therefore they are true. And I am
justified in casting them in the light that I did, if only you read
them. Did you think I said Rosa Parks was a black
nationalist? That means you have poor reading
comprehension. Change the world by going back to school.
IMC St. Louis Re:
ABCN Giving Terrorist Support in Boston! by
whatever 15 Dec
2005 Actually, the
author is a well-known moron from the Boston area who calls himself
Flipside. He is a racist, a homophobe, and a capitalist. He also has a
personal agenda against several individuals and groups in the area.
Rebuttal: Thanks "whatever."
Does your family call you that too? It was clever of you to
deduce my name, which was posted in the byline. Can't put one by
the anarchist intelligence division. I have a 'personal agenda
against several individuals and groups in the area.' Ooooh.
Watch out! It may be you. Why don't you guys get an
agenda? And a platform. Heck. Get a job.
"A racist." No. Racists believe race is the *only*
or primary determining factor in human ranking or performance.
Therefore, I
could not be a racist. I must also point out that you are
probably a honkey anyway.
"A homophobe." Sorry to break it to you, but nobody's actually
afraid of fags. Except the people you write letters to in
prison. You must get a lot of complaints about sore ass from your
clients. Or do you?
"A capitalist." Got me there. I also eat meat, celebrate
Christmas, play the stock market, speak english, and make fun of
bums. Me and about 95% of other Americans.
IMC Colorado Re:
ABCN Giving Terrorist Support in Boston! by this is crap 15 Dec
2005 these are all
lies and slander. the author should be ashamed- this is total bullshit.
there is not a single truth in this entire article. i suspect the
author of this article is a cop or similar auhoritiarian figure using
these lies to get information.
Rebuttal: Hi
"crap," this is Flipside. About lies -- please read the
self-incriminating letters included in the article. They are very
entertaining. About slander: Sue me. Ironic,
anarchists claiming slander, which is only punishable by law, which is
only written by government. So you suspect I am a cop or a similar authoritarian figure? That's
rather a wide category wouldn't you say? Are all of your
suspicions so vague? Using lies to get information? 1)
Isn't the prohibition against lying a rule,
even a moral commandment?
2) You guys leak --no-- ooze
information constantly. You stink of information. Muddled,
loud, idiotic, and blatant information. You do this freely.
I am merely collecting it, amplifying it, and throwing it back at you
like a loudspeaker, or so much bug spray. Think people are
narking you? Shit. You folks are memorized.
IMC St. Louis "Goofy Right Wingers"
by j 15
Dec 2005 Chill out.. he
is just trying to get people riled up and try to turn mild
disagreements or fears into "open wounds". Big deal.
The reality is
that the status quo is in some pretty deep shit. The president's hated
by most Americans. Capitalism's pretty corrupt and we hear about it
every day on the news. The government is very open about just being a
pawn of corporations and supporting torture. The crazy weather is
destroying portions of America and it has all been traced directly to
the oil and car industry by prominant scientists.
They don't want
poor people to realize that the definition of "liberty" means something
different depending on if you are a boss/owner, or you are a
poor/worker/unemployed person. They are used to using standard cold-war
style dichotamies, and framing anyone who doesnt like the capitalist
system (probabaly most working class americans when you honestly get
down to it) in negative, exaggerated terms in order to scare ordinary
people from taking their lives and their destinies into their own
hands... so they resort to openly lying about their political
opponents, as they always have.
Rebuttal:
Oh shit. I've been discovered! I am trying to rile people
up. --Insert reassuring socialist drivel here-- Yeah. You
got me pegged. I don't want the >laff< poor to >laff< realize that Marxist class stuggle
>laff< exists and
>laff< bosses and unemployed workers (oxymoron) have different
opinions on economy. Shit if that ever gets out, the workers
might >laff< unite and
um... sieze the means of production....
and...
--guffaw!
...so I/we resort to lying about my >laff< political opponents as "THEY"
always have.
Not only am I keeping the 150 year old teachings of Karl Marx a BIG
SECRET... I am also suppressing the GOOD NEWS of Christs resurrection,
and the recipe to the Colonel's Original Chicken. I am keeping
the black man down... and it's people
like me that are responsible for the world being fucked up.
Slummerville IMC "Flipside flipped
again" by
Somerville @ 15 Dec
2005 It's worth
noting here that rather than some secret cabal bent on violence being
revealed, what actually has been shown is a rather typical debate among
peace and justice activists... some in solidarity with people who are
in prison for some actions (this does not mean that anyone on the list
themselves does such things, and as a person from the area I can say
that nobody here does do such things. If it is a crime to say you are
in solidarity with Rob Los Ricos or Free and Critter, or you were in
solidarity with Tookie Williams, it puts one in some pretty ipressive
an respectable company.)
Anarchists
getting called terrorists by a person like Flipside - who does things
like posting huge photos of white woman giving black men blow jobs to
various Indymedia sites - is rather drol, when you consider that
liberal democrats are accused of being terrorists constantly by Sean
Hannidy or Bill O'Rielly every day on the radio.
Mark, Jamal,
Matt and whoever else, are entitled to their own opinions - they do not
represent any institution other than themselves when they write words
in a mailing list. Criticism of this or that tactic, in heated words,
is very standard fare on the internet, and in any organization or
association, or general debate. In British Parliament, people sometimes
throw punches at each other.
What the fuck
is the "Jericho Project"? (Jamal doesnt know either)
The IWW made a
rather prominant decision against participating in Black Bloc actions
several years back, by the way, and has been quite nonviolent for many
decades. Also, the Communist Party was "ejected" from the IWW in the
1920's (they tried, with varying success and failure, to
infiltrate/take over a number of independant labor organizations then,
such as the CGT in France, etc). Read the history.
It is nice to
know that Flipside hates Rosa Parks and thinks she was some kind of
evil pinko commie anti-all-that-is-good whatever. Man, she really
should have shut up and got up so that white man could have his seat on
the bus!
In fact -
following Flipside's helpful advice - maybe if you feel bad at your job
or unhappy with your government in America, you should keep your mouth
shut unless you own a majority of stock shares!
If you really
hate the Crips, try and think about the kind of social conditions that
create gangs in America. There are more people in gangs than work for
McDonald's. Also, if Crips suck so bad, why is half of America trying
to dress like them?
Rebuttal:
Thanks Slummerville! It's always good to know that Joe
Curtatone's closest impotent enemies are ready with an opinion, whether
it's sticking up for Salvadoran gangsters or just educating people on
the particulars of Communist history. This is probably NEFAG
talking. To address your points:
You guys stuck up for arson and demanded solidarity with people in
prison for terrorism. This is one of the many reasons why
solidarism is stupid. You guys should sell "Stop Snitchin'"
T-shirts for effeminate honkeys. Lucy Parsons Center would gladly
sell them. So would Hootnanny, where you buy your punk suit, so
that also settles your Crip quip. As to the social conditions
which create the Crips, they are called stupidity, greed, and
cruelty. Situationism -- the belief that dipshits can be excused
because you don't know their situation -- sounds as stupid coming from
you as it does from dead rappers in California.
I really cannot take seriously the claim that any of your interwoven
and overlapped organizations are nonviolent, since I have traced
various other posts by you and yours endorsing violence and vandalism.
Regarding your belief that I hate Rosa Parks, only an abject retard
could have insinuated that from my article. I stated quite
clearly that she is a nonsequitor in the lineup of Communist hereos
which includes faggots, murderers, and arsonists. You guys are
the ones who "hate Rosa Parks" by trying to transpose her into a pinko
icon. I am sure she had more balls than any anarchist or
communist, since she did more on her own than throw red paint on a
consolate in "solidarity" with some professional vandal who got plugged
in Italy.
I''m wicked wicked sorry I didn't get the name of Jamal's organization exactly right as we all know,
getting an anarchist organization's name right is essential to
understanding it's actions, aims, and filtering our interpretation of
their calls for solidarity with criminals and scum. How could we
tell them apart without perfect -- no wait.. doesn't that call
for "solidarity" eliminate the particular slant of your
organization? Oh yeah. It does.
And since I don't claim "solidarity" with neocon shills like Hannity
and O'Reilly, the observation I just made is not reversible.
Doesn't that just suck for you. Anyway, I am um.. an Emcee, and
O'Reilly is um.. not into Emcees. Your radio does work doesn't
it? Or was it your brain that doesn't.
The only thing you said which is actually worth rebutting in a higher
degree of seriousness is "Mark, Jamal,
Matt and whoever else, are entitled to their own opinions - they do not
represent any institution other than themselves when they write words
in a mailing list."
That's very clever. Whoever else indeed. Anyone who authors
content on behalf of an organization, especially if it is leaderless,
"is holding the conch." You do read don't you? Whoever
holds the conch gets the big rock dropped on him. Physics tells
us that when we want to lessen the pressure of an impact we must spread
it over as wide an area as possible. No doubt you jackasses
believe that is why an environment of mutual aid, flash protest, and
rapid dissipation and denials is effective. Let me educate
you. If you move like terrorists, you will be treated as
terrorists. And you should be. Do I say this because I work
for an agency? No. I say this because um... I'm smarter
than you and your ideas are but a small subset of the ideas that
actually exist. People shouldn't drop out of school. Predictive
technology, affinity group diagramming, local area network analysis,
all render your ideas, beliefs, and tactics obsolete. You are
obsolete. That's why you walk and talk like a 19th century
Slav. It was the industrial
revolution that made Marx's belliefs obsolete. It was
superior technology wielded by dumber, but bloodthirsty thug-drones
that put an end to Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht. The irony
is that you use a computer to be so ass backward. Much like a
born-again uses a photocopier, or a dog if he could use a can opener
not realizing he doesn't eat green beans.
Yeah you got a right to be that way, but quit expecting sympathy when
you howl.
Funniest Letter:
(from the man hisself.)
BostonAnarchists Reminder:
this list is being monitored michael_patrick #
From: michael_patrick@riseup.net # To:
bostonanarchists@lists.riseup.net #
Subject: Reminder: this list is being monitored #
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:10:19 -0800 #
User-agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4)
This is an open
subscribe list for general discussion/announcement purposes of the
greater Boston anarchist community. A wonderful organizing tool, and
democratically open to all. Open to all- including cops, feds, nazis,
authoritarians, and morons that cannot even keep organizational
affiliations straight.
The below links
contain an article that has been posted and reposted throughout the IMC
Network.
And to the
writer of this crap, fuck you. Say what you want, but don't claim I
support authoritarian scum like the CP, WWP, IAC, ISO, or ANSWER.
-- Michael Patrick Boston ABC
www.anarchistblackcross.org www.bostonabc.org
Rebuttal: I did/do claim you support those other
douchebags. "Solidarism" means you do. Anyway you support
ELF. You and Ted Kaczynski. Plus, I refer again to the letters
you posted, which I did not alter. Maybe YOU PERSONALLY don't
support other anarchist and commie groups when they are more powerful
than you, but that doesn't leave you out of the slop pile. It
didn't leave Bakunin out of Marx's slop pile. It didn't leave the
Communards out of the slop pile either. You writhe in the same
muck as ANSWER which fronts as large as you do at the Rosa Parks
event. And Tom Arabia from ISO is always advocating cock sucking
communism at your events. It doesn't matter that you stand around
like a separate pack of uber-bitter black clad Allston Beat-niks near
the Justice Magazine table. "Oh. I am a pussy. I don't eat pussy. This is the vegan table. What you want is
the lesbian table over
there." Shit but you do make good jokes!
Be less of a pussy and make the real ABCN list public. Then we
can all have a laugh, not just the JTTF.
Or maybe this
Letter is Funnier:
this list (moderator note, pls
read) tania reply
[to sender ] [to list ] #
From: tania < tania_michele@yahoo.com> # To:
bostonanarchists@lists.riseup.net #
Subject: this list (moderator note, pls read) #
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:44:59 -0800 (PST) just a heads up
from a friendly moderator that this list was set up by and for the
anarchist/anti-authoritarian community of boston, including
anarcho-curious folks. while this list is open for anyone to subscribe,
authoritarians and other people who are fuckheads to the anarchist
community will be removed.
that being
said, we have a (haters mag) lurker either on this list or reading the
archives. i am happy to close the archives to non-list members if
people on this list would prefer that, but that won't necessarily fix
the problem and folks might want to still keep an eye out for bullshit
elsewhere on the internet. what we have seen was all bs without any
context or basis in reality, but it was posted to various newswires and
did call people by name and throw out some fucked up accusations about
them. just so everyone knows.
Rebuttal: Fuckhead!
That's a funny name. Now let me call you one: Tania
Vamont. Look at this:
"We wanted to do
something different that allows people to express themselves however
they want," BTS core member Tania Vamont, a 24-year-old Emerson
graduate who also works with the Boston-based anarchist union BAAM!,
told a room of reporters the
Saturday before the
convention. "So if people want to do street theater, or someone wants
to have a picket, or someone wants to pick up trash or connect with
some folks in the community - people decide in their own groups to
express themselves however they would like, whether it’s resisting the
DNC or working with a local community group."
