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The Pimples of Hip Hop

The Pimples of Hip Hop describes scenarios where young college consumers of Hip Hop try to lecture independent producers, artists, and entrepreneurs on the latest Fashion Political Kulture. If you don't accept the latest yang opinions from Hip Hop's new downloaders, prepare to have your ghetto pass revoked on behalf of "people of color" by salty (anti)white anti-lectuals who Rage Against The (Hip Hop) Machine with their (Glazed) Eyes on the Prize and their iPoop players filled with Kool Keith, Mr Lif, Jurassic 5, Dead Prez, and Black Eyed Peas.

Here is a debate where some corn silken headz tried to revoke my ghetto pass.

I jumped in on a boring debate about racism, sexism, and homophobia in Hip Hop started by some self-conscious wiggaz who don't know if it is still okay to listen to Public Enemy anymore:

Captaindong: Personal Opinion-Racism within Hip Hop?

Here's my thing about Public Enemy. [...] my own personal opinion.[...] I like to think of myself as a very tolerant person. [...] I realize that Public Enemy did a lot [...]. However, to me, their tudes [...] just as indiscriminately racially prejudice as those white people they attack.

Martin Luther King and latter-day pre-death Malcolm X were more along the lines of being true progressive individuals, in my eyes. [...racism] itself and hatred that needs to be attacked, from all sides. [...] It alienates a certain segment of that audience [...] white people ...however] many liberal whites will listen. Their philosophy is to bend over and take it up the ass from whoever. [I don't know. I kind of have mixed emotions [...] prejudices or double standards [...] outright "prejudice" against ANYONE for something like skin color is wrong. [blah blah blah kumbayah].

FLIPSIDE: Hip Hop once upheld Clarity and Honesty. No doubt PE, XClan, PRT, Brand Nubian, and some others were racially prejudiced. There were arguments presented, and counter arguments presented back in the day.

Nevertheless....

I am a white boy who listened to racially prejudiced nationalist music created by black people. Whether the prejudices were active, reactive, or otherwise, I stand by my decision to continue to listen to those records.

I have read:
Message to the Black Man in America.
The collected works of Marcus Garvey.
Soul On Ice.
Black Power.

and really a whole host of other stuff from Robert H. Decoy to Cornel West. I WON'T say that the opinions voiced by black writers and artists 15 to 35 years ago are still the gospel truth or mostly true. In fact a lot of the ideas presented are out of date and ignore the massive impact black people have on Western Civilization. And I am talking about continents here, not neighborhoods.

This whole idea that:

Racial Prejudice
Materialism
Religion
Chauvinism
Masculinity
Violence
Swear Words

don't have legitimate origins or contexts is absurd. And I would HOPE that no emcee or writer would try to weasel out of his strong statements of the past simply because they are no longer popular.

Captaindong: Flipside, I realize that those things have legitimate origins. I never disputed that. BUT, all I was saying is that if a "positive thinker" possesses any of these traits, rather than trying to be above them, I tend to take his words a bit less seriously. I'll probably bump up my reading after graduation. I'm really interested in things like oppression and prejudice. I just don't have as much time to read as I'd like to with college and work. Maybe I'll check some of those books out.

However, about "weaseling out of statements" of the past, here's what I'll say. To me, if they said it and meant it, I will say that I don't think they should front later. I'll agree on that. But, if you mean statements like racial or generally ignorant statements, I think it's still bull. There are different ways to go about things. No matter what problems exist with poverty and oppression and soforth, it's still no excuse. AND is counterproductive, to their own cause, in the long run. Well, I probably didn't word everything exactly right, since I'm in a hurry. That's mine, though.

4much: I've said it once and I will say it again, when the NOI had a strong, public relationship with HipHop is when the culture was making strong gains, socially and economically. The NOI is/was good for HipHop. This was also around the time of Afrocentricty in HipHop and you didn't nearly have as many white boys trying to be down. As soon as we broke public ties with the Nation is when all the bullshit was brought to the forefront for our culture. Who was it who helped end the beefs in 96'? The Honorable Minister and the NOI. Not the black christian church, not the white christian church and most definatly not the so-called jewish church because jews were cashing in on it. It's like anything thats good for minorities, I.E. blacks & latinos, in amerikkka now-a-days is some reverse-racisim bullshit.

I find it funny that you have this post about the NOI and somewhere in the mid-west you have some jew saying he won't serve on a hate-crime committie because there is a brother from the NOI on it. If your supposed to be "idealistic" or "progressive" it's suppose to be for all. Correct? I guess people from the NOI have never had a hate-crime committed agianist them.

Once again we're getting these white boys who grew up in the grey area of town, that 10 mile stretch between the hood and the burbs, lived 3 blocks away and had a couple of minority friends and thinks he know what going on. Him and his 1 or 2 black buddies got along and think thats how the world should be. And really it should be that way, but in this country untill minorities come up and can be self-sufficient they need to teach thier own, buy from thier own and live with thier own. Then we can talk about coming together.

FLIPSIDE: Re: We Are The World.

Ha ha.

On the planet I lived on (Earth), it went down like this:

The NOI had a strong, public relationship with HipHop when the culture was like a prize fighter about to win. The NOI dickrode Hip Hop, and a few emcees were inspired by NOI. Most of them did it because it was a fad. They don't rap anymore because they fell off.

During the time of Afrocentricty in HipHop and you had just as many white boys trying to be down. They just used to be more self hating and a lot more kiss ass.

Hip Hop's ties to the NOI were never so strong that they were driving hip hop or keeping it from falling apart. Hip Hoppers are the ones that made the NOI relevant in the early 1990s, DECADES after the NOI ceased to be anything but a way for the Murderer of Malcolm X to line his pockets.

The beefs in 96' that were ended by the NOI were mostly a publicity stunt.

Homie kicks out this stereotype: "white boys who grew up in the grey area of town and had a couple of minority friends and thinks he know what going on."

A daring question: What if white boys didn't give a fuck about was going on, laughed in your face and rapped anyway? And what if his black buddies liked it, and you were the one that was ass out? That would be pretty damn funny wouldn't it?

4much: My Man Flipside,

If you believe that the NOI had no realvence in HipHop or the black community untill rappers started to kick knowledge about them, you are one of those white boys.

"A daring question: What if white boys didn't give a f.u.c.k. about was going on, laughed in your face and rapped anyway? And what if his black buddies liked it, and you were the one that was a.s.s. out? That would be pretty damn funny wouldn't it?"

Whats so daring about it. What white boy thats rapping and has some fame to his name cares about whats going on with minorities?

Here's a question for you, what the real reason you love what we call HipHop so much? You been graf writer for about 15 years? You been a DJ for about 15? You grew up in the hood and know the pain that it comes from? What? I question all you white cats with the same question.

It's time to start pulling cards on all these bitches who claim to be down.

FLIPSIDE: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

"If you believe that the NOI had no realvence in HipHop or the black community untill rappers started to kick knowledge about them, you are one of those white boys."

So some black dude is calling me a white boy. In the 21st century do I care?

"What white boy thats rapping and has some fame to his name cares about whats going on with minorities?"

What are you after? What do I owe you, son? Lemme give you five bucks and pay you off for slavery. When were you enslaved again? What plantation did you work for? And when did I ever hold you down?

"Here's a question for you, what the real reason you love what we call HipHop so much?"

You call it hip hop too? Thats just great. I've been listening to Hip Hop since 1979. I've been breaking since 1983. I've been DJing and doing wild style since 1989. I've been rapping since 1993. I've been putting out independent releases and publishing a magazine since 1999. What the fuck can I do for you? Or what am I supposed to do for you, according to you?

And what do you do that you can pull anybody's card?

4much: Damn, that an impressive resume. You covered all four elements. Plus you been down since 79'. We need to move you to the head of the class, or better yet we'll change your scrren name from FLIPSIDE to Son of Herc. I give you a pat on the back for all you accompilishments but while you were doing all that how many community events, in minority communities, i.e. parades, days in the park, block parties, street festivals did you attend. You know what, thats not a fair question to ask because you might not have lived that close to the hood.

My point is that HipHop is way more than scratching up you daddy's LP collection or rapping some lame verse to a female. It's deeper than knowing what group Kool Moe Dee was in or that Kay Slay was in Style Wars. It's about that community, the hood you come from. Knowing that, that block, park or project can make me or break me. Why you think it's always about where you from in HipHop.

And how do I know you don't have a clue?

"What do I owe you, son? Lemme give you five bucks and pay you off for slavery. When were you enslaved again? What plantation did you work for? And when did I ever hold you down?"

That was your response to to this question here.

"What white boy thats rapping and has some fame to his name cares about whats going on with minorities?"

Who even mentioned slavery or reperations. And i'm suppose to believe that your down for the cause, and aren't a little racist.

FLIPSIDE: True Feelings on it (We agree on a lot).

I would love to be Son of Herc. When he let me use his tables in Union Square, I felt blessed.

I've only done 2 block parties, 1 pajama party, 1 African Muslim fashion show, but countless free nights for the Black Student Union pool hall night. I've attended far more jamaican festivals as a spectator participant. I have lived in Lawrence and near Cambridge and Roxbury. Lived near. Spent much time in.

"My point is that HipHop is way more than scratching up you daddy's LP collection or rapping some lame verse to a female. It's deeper than knowing what group Kool Moe Dee was in or that Kay Slay was in Style Wars. It's about that community, the hood you come from. Knowing that, that block, park or project can make me or break me. Why you think it's always about where you from in HipHop."

That is true. I tell people: "I am from Boston. Originally from Haverhill." That means something to me.

"And i'm suppose to believe that your down for the cause, and aren't a little racist."

I am down for me. And everyone is a little bit racist. Who hasn't earned at least a small bit of racial stereotype? I would never deny that the racial stereotypes about me are somewhat true.

But what attracted me to Hip Hop even more after I had been participating in it for years was the pride, the arrogance, the hostility, and the oratory skill of emcees. I don't go for altruistic, socialist, whine-hop. I have followed the examples at one time or another of KRS, Just-Ice, Rakim, Chubb Rock, Slick Rick, Sadat X, and Wise Intelligent to name a short few. None of them kissed any ass in their prime.

I belong to the Hip Hop of Burner Art that no one can read. Of Disses that no one can take. Of cuts no other MFKH can do. Of tongue twisting and mean spirited lyrics that no one can completely agree with. Of fly gear that no one else dare wear. Of Flips and spins that hurt dumb people who wander into the round. Hip Hop for me has always been elite. I stand for that Hip Hop that makes people scared they might not be able to climb to it. Like in 1988.

theillestone: The Authoritative Personality

Flysyde,

So you are attracted to the power, or rather, what you percieve to be power. So when did socialism become a bad thing? A lot of folks like to put capitalism and socialism at opposite type of ends. I don't want to pigeon hole you like this but it seems to me that you fit in the captialist type of "take no prisoners" paradigm. Too me hip hop was always, as all forms of black music, a counter claim to the dominant cultures concept of the truth and all that flows from it. Hip hop is a claim of equality and social justice.

It's not about white boys gettin their rocks of being distructive yet cleverly covering it up by making claims of authenticy.

You say you were attracted to the arrogance and the hostility, but you don't reflect the understanding of where that comes from. It certainly didn't start with hip hop, and it is definitly not anger and hostility for the sake of anger and hostility... it is not for some cheap thrill or rush It is directly related to oppresive circumstances people of color have been faced with over lets say, the last 500 years or so.

Your in hip hop for the wrong reasons... at best you have a terrible understanding dispite your "hip hop resume". All that hip hop and you still think like any other cat caught up in western capitalisitc agressive ideological frameworks; figures.

Here we go again; this is like learning JAZZ in college. It doesn't matter how many parties you go to, or how many legends you know of or come in contact with, if your words and actions don't reflect any understanding of hip hop you have completly missed the boat man! You simply have an intellectual knowledge of hip hop, you are not embodying the spirit of it; you ain't representin...

FLIPSIDE: Re: The Authoritative Personality

"So you are attracted to the power, or rather, what you perceive to be power."

--Hell yeah. That's why I read "Black Power." There was no better reason to read it. I prefer "Will to Power." I am a suprematist. Not a white suprematist, mind you. But a suprematist. I am an artistic suprematist and a cultural suprematist. (So were Cab Calloway and Duke Ellington) I like and make supreme art and culture. I despise weak art and culture, and I despise when art and culture do not sanitize weakness out of people. Art that does not fortify me is garbage.

Socialism is a bad thing because man is best expressed as a man and not as a herd of men. Society is an accident which falls apart, occasionally allowing a man to come out. And here by man I don't mean the thing that emerges from between a woman's legs, but rather the creature that rules the universe.

I love the "capitalist type of take no prisoners paradigm." In this month's issue of Hater's Magazine I will be instructing emcees and djs on how to play the stock market.

Of course "Hip Hop and all forms of black music are a counter claim to the dominant cultures concept of the truth and all that flows from it." That is its strength. It's WEAKNESS is its whore-like acceptance of the nondominant cultures, and it's (recent) lack of individual fearlessness. F.aggot 50 with abs and a nickle plated fake dic.k just don't cut it. A suprematist accepts no inferior substitutes in art or music. That's why many Hip Hoppaz don't. But complaining about capitalism is just accepting an inferior substitute and one from 150 years ago in Europe at that: Karl Marx. What a wuss he was!

"Hip hop is a claim of equality and social justice."

Bull -Ish. My man Groove B Chill once said "We been overcame. You just wasn't told." Hip Hoppas don't need social justice, cause Hip Hop provides it's own source of economy and society. A Billion dollar industry that people just can't wait to get their hooks in. But we know better. We make the industry. We write the hooks. Those suckers are half steppin'.

"It's not about white boys gettin' their rocks off being destructive yet cleverly covering it up by making claims of authenticity."

It is for me. And anybody can be down with me if they just push up on their game. But I don't have to "claim" authenticity. I am one of the most authentic MTHFKHS out here. I have to be. I am smarter and crazier. There is Hip Hop s.hit I have invented in my studio that heads don't even have yet. And there's gonna be more.

"You say you were attracted to the arrogance and the hostility, but you don't reflect the understanding of where that comes from."

I don't plan to. It is not for me to emulate an angry black man who is trying to convince the world that he is gonna do dirt to the whole planet. Not only is it not my style, it is a played out style. It is a hoe style. I got my OWN understanding of where s.hit comes from. I fist fought my fair share of knife wielding NY Puerto Ricans. I was a Yankee Hater in 1983 before they had the hats. I don't HAVE to have eaten lead paint in a project house to act crazy.

Everything I do is a "cheap thrill or rush." Life is a game to me and I take nothing seriously. Least of all "oppressive circumstances." Oppressive circumstances weed the scum out of mankind, producing stronger people. That's why Liberia manufactures such hard dudes. And I never say "people of color" like you just did. That's the same as saying colored people.

"You're in hip hop for the wrong reasons..."

Yep. Like Slick Rick is up in the wrong hole. And I like it up here. For MY reasons.

"at best you have a terrible understanding despite your hip hop resume".

I have spent enough time with people to know what my understanding is SUPPOSED to be. I just don't plan on adopting that mode of understanding because I see its flaws. One of its flaws is that weak minded h.onkeys can hijack it anyway with some old social gospel.

"All that hip hop and you still think like any other cat caught up in western capitalistic aggressive ideological frameworks; figures."

Yeah. I'm really like that. I'm white, aggressive, capitalistic, elitist, male, western, you name it. I am also running my sector. I am also Hip Hop. AND you can talk to the fellow black aggressive capitalistic elitist male westerners that are my partners in Hip Hop and enterprise. WE ARE the model. The weak form IS NOT the model.

I didn't miss the boat. I got my own form of transportation.

4much: Whatever. FLIPSIDE is the poster boy of a cat with a backpack & a trust fund.

FLIPSIDE: Yo, your record's skippin', 4much.

I don't need to battle wack dudes online. I don't have a backpack, I have a leather briefcase. And I don't have a trust fund, I have a stock brokerage account. You need to go get yourself a copy of Main Source and listen to Watch Roger Do His Thing. 'Cause we be doing our thing out here in Boston.

the illestone: So you are attracted to the power, or rather, what you perceive to be power.

[Re: statement about Kwame Ture]

This statement is just another example of your confusion, misrepresentation, and appropiation of Hip Hop culture in the form of "Black Power". Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) in his book, and in his teachings has never endorsed capitalism if anything he has implied or said explicitly that it is the enemy. White power, white supremecy and its economic structure is the enemy. Hip Hop ain't down wit that and you can't twist his word to fit your "own conception" of Hip Hop or black art. When you say things like "sanatizing weakness out of people" again, keeping well within this Darwinist, not to mention elitist framework while at the same time using great Black artists like Calloway and Ellington to support your arguments you are devilishly twisting the facts.

You might very well have have a trust fund, thats what those type of cats yell out "survival of the fitest" to justfiy their position and continued exploitation of people whom they deem as weak. Black folk and black art could neva be down wit this and this is not a "weakness" it is an undeinable strength of ours; righteousness.

Calloway and "The Duke" were very good at what they did, you might very call them "masters" or "supreme" however this is a very singular notion, it does not reflect or insinuate the blurred and perverted meaning and conontation you are implying. Again, this is yet another attempt on your behalf to appropriate Black art & artists spin them around and fit them into your captialistic paradigm. What you are doing is sick and it implies that you belive that I and the rest of a lot of people on this board do not know our own history. You must think so if you feel so comfortable making such assertions, using Brother Ture and folks like Ellington as examples of your white supremist, kill all the weak (whatever that means) attitude. I fully reject your deposit.

Hip Hop is about community and socialism is a concept which extends this idea to encompass a larger group of people; a society if you wil. Capitalists talk about the "rights" we have as people, "the rulers of the world" as you put it. Black folks have never traditionally looked at ourselves in that manner. Again this is your white supremist ideology dressing up like Hip Hop. You are really a drag queen. We are a tribal and communial people and even after all these years and seperation from that tree, the roots remain strong. What you fail to realize is that before you have innaliable rights and all that you have RESPONSIBLITIES to you fellow man. The whole economic system, and world for that matter is based on faith and trust, no matter what you and your greedy, Godless, lifeless White Supremist friends believe. Don't believe me....

Well what do you call "credit" but an economic way of saying: "I trust you will pay this back, and because of this trust and faith I have in you I will lend you this money and make other plans based on this faith."

The entire world would fall apart without trust and faith; and it is due to captialstic arrangements which you support and try toclaim Hip Hop under that is destroying this very "man" which you worship. Trust and faith is severily damaged by capitalistic arrangements by using and exploiting peoples natural innate inclination to trust and have faith in their fellow being.

Flipside said: "Of course "Hip Hop and all forms of black music are a counter claim to the dominant cultures concept of the truth and all that flows from it." That is its strength. It's WEAKNESS is its whore-like acceptance of the nondominant cultures, and it's (recent) lack of individual fearlessness."

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you are completly contradicting yourself here buddy. Part of the counter claim is a claim against white supremecy, darwinist beliefs, and the capitalistic economic system used to justify and facilitate the segregation, oppresion, and murder of other non dominant cultures and people.

Then in the next instance here you are again trying to change the definiton of non dominant culture. In the first sentence you concede that Hip Hop is a counter claim. In the next sentence you are calling non dominant cultures (black culture) Hip Hop culture weak because it does not ascribe to the white hegimonic cultural value system of "murder murder, kill kill" which in the first sentence you agreed Hip Hop was a claim against.

You are a phony. You are the equivalent to Republicans who claim (appropriate) Dr. King's legacy and have the audacity to state that Dr. King would have been AGAINST affirmative action.

Flipside said: "Karl Marx. What a wuss he was!"

I don't know any black or Hip Hop scholar, activist, or founder who would agree with this statement. It futher goes to show at what lenghts you will go to try to dissassociate Hip Hop from many of the ideological beliefs which help inform it.

You are a phony and again don't know anything about Hip Hop or the roots of which it came because you lack the abilty to connect Hip Hop to its broader cultural lineage of black resistance to the hegomic culture and all of its institutions, value systems and beliefs. This is reflected in the statements you made above. When I said that you do not know where the "anger" and "hostility" come from you assumed that I was talking about some rapper. Your response was, "It is not for me to emulate an angry black man who is trying to convince the world that he is gonna do dirt to the whole planet." The only person who would think I am refering to some "fake gangsta rapper" with those comments when I am talking about the "anger" and "hostility" is someone who does not know anything about black people and our history since slavery. That person does not know about living in an oppresive environment and the "anger" and "hostility" and might I add "frustration" in which that environment fosters and is always present. Living in these types of environment facilitates violence and anger which errupt out of frustration due to the objective situation and you know absolutly nothing about that!!! This is reflected in your comments.

Furthermore; Hip Hop, was a way to release some of those tensions, through emceeing, djing, grafitti, etc. In this manner it serves the same purpose in which dance, music, the church has always served in the black community which you know nothing about!!! Again I stress you have an intellectual knowledge of Hip Hop but you are completly devoid of the spirit. Your intellectual knowledge is twisted and really gives you NO standing of authenticity either.

Because you have black partners who are just as misled as you does not validate your position. Like Iman Jamil Al-Amin (H. Rap Brown) said, " " so you can't gain any leverage with your ignorance by implying that "you have black friends." That is the last line of defense of white people in defending their perverse endeavors and ideas. I am not implying that all ideas made by white people are evil and perverse, but in this instance, this white guy here (Flipside) is operating within this paradigm.

I will concede that you have found your own boat; the TITANIC, and when you sink in all your greed and aggression and capitalistic endeavors all I ask of you is not to justify it in the name of Hip Hop. You are an exploiter, a settler, an imperialist, you believe in this ideology you adhere to these tactics, and you espouse this kind of propaganda; you are not Hip Hop.

FLIPSIDE: Take a pill, ill.

You can talk till you are blue in the face about how you get misrepresented by me or other people. My job ain't to represent you or to represent Hip Hop in a way that you like.

I said I *read* Black Power. I didn't say Kwame Ture was right or that I agreed with everything he presented in his book. I think he was a moron in terms of economics despite his skills as an orator. I am not impressed by mass movements in general. He was good as an angry racialist speaker and a mobilizer of non-cooperative demonstrations. But, he can go hang as far as his economic beliefs go.

If you think money and economics are just a system set up by "whitey" to deprive you of wealth, then it's really just tough ti.tty, and you have the economic intellect of a barbarian. Have fun fighting all the black people that make a good living and who own or earn money.

You can say what Hip Hop is or ain't, but again that's just you and your opinion in some remote, peanut butter and sheetrock eatin' section of the country. It doesn't speak to me or my opinion. There is no person in Hip Hop that can say to me or anyone: "If you want to be Hip Hop, you gotta believe what I believe." Here we are at the core issue of why rap's priests are full of s.hit.

I can use any word to fit my conception of Hip Hop and black art. Why? Because that is how Hip Hop is made. People take samples and words, and beats and make it fit their conception of art. But you are probably not a producer, just a consumer of Hip Hop. There is an article about your type called "The Pimples of Hip Hop."

So you called me a devil for making Cab Calloway and Duke Ellington out to be artistic elitists. Doesn't that just reduce you to some racist ignorant black dude calling me a Devil? Go buy yourself a bow tie and hand out bean pies. Isn't that a fair rebuttal? (I should have added Prince to that list of artistic elitists too.)

You should really lay off the fact that you are jealous of people who have trust funds. I already told you how I make my money, and if that isn't enough for you, then you are going to have to shop for some other hype whiteboy to buy your gear, cause like Bob Dylan said, It Ain't Me, Babe.

You repeated that idiotic myth that I am somehow stealing and twisting black art and music. I ask you, are you an artist and a musician? Because I don't have the time of day to give to CONSUMERS of art and music or their warped paranoid hysterical fantasies. I can save you the trouble by reminding you that I take what I want and I used it how I want. That is Hip Hop. And I don't feel like paying you any royalties.

And what is this about? Are you calling into question my self-assurance and confidence in making assertions which include black people? Damn you! If that isn't racist then nothing is. Imagine someone telling me I can't speak from my experience and the assimilation of art and history. What a dope. Do you think you can somehow "scare" me out of making references to Cab Calloway or Kwame Ture?

But I digress... You called me a white supremacist, when I clearly stated that I was a suprematist of another type. An artistic and musical suprematist. For that you earn the title of ass. You severely lack imagination. Is the best thing you can think to call me some used old 1965 lead paint eatin' boooooooosh.it? Get with the times, dude, that sad song ain't playing anymore. Hardly any black dudes feel it, and no white dude is gonna feel it. Go study and learn how to dis.

Illestone said: "Hip Hop is about community and socialism is a concept which extends this idea to encompass a larger group of people"

YOU might be a Hip Hop socialist but I ain't.

YOU went on to say that black people are inherently tribal socialist people who can't see themselves as being superior to anybody. Check yourself out. You are the white racist. You have absorbed all the lesser expectations and cop outs of the so called white man and assigned them to your race. I didn't do it. You did. So stop posing as the authority on black thought. You should get your head out of that honkey Marx 's ass while you are at it.

You said I have responsibilities to other men before I have rights for myself. That is the honkey Plato's ideas. Maybe you should give those up too. In the wild, we get hungry. I feed myself before I would feed you. I don't even know you! Sh.it. I might even *eat* you. All humans show resistance to prions. That means every human group has exhibited cannibalism at least once. Feeding yourself and eating others -- now that comes before doing anything responsible for others. What have you EARNED that I should do for you? Speak quick. I got me a bottle of ketchup!

P.S.

I am not only Hip Hop, I am bigger than Hip Hop. I don't care if you think it's sweet or pointless that I have black friends. Any nasty name you called me in this discussion was usually to the equivalent of MTHFKH, conceeding that I had the upper hand. You were never able to call me anything below yourself (personally). Maybe with the exception of drag queen. But I don't know how a drag queen and you measure up. You name dropped Jamil Al-Amin. That was like some kind of authoritative reference attempt to someone who is supposed to have balls, but I forget -- is he in or out of jail lately, giving or taking shit? He seems to spend equal time doing both. You said I'm a fraud, I'm a phony. So did Holden Caulfield in To Kill a Mockingbird. So does a chronic masturbator out in Maryland. So did a well known emcee at a University this week. But from where I am standing, they all played themselves.